If atheists are for the freedom of others, why the constant bashing of people with religious beliefs? It would not occur to me to criticize your lack of your religious convictions, that is your choice. I wonder why you feel the need to constantly criticize and mock religion? - BooMac
This is an interesting question posed to MisterE and one that I’d like to see him answer in full. BooMac makes a point I’ve called out many times before. But before I continue, I have this to say:
MisterE, you dance on a line of bigotry and hatred toward Christians, conservatives and anyone who shows any sort of disagreement with your ideologies. Ender and Carol may agree with you on some topics, but I don’t (and with this said, they are respectful of those who disagree with them, which is why I enjoy and respect their writings).
When it comes to MisterE’s piece (which BooMac was responding to), there are plenty of inaccuracies; here’s just one of the many:
People without religion are just as, if not more ‘moral’ than their religious counterparts. Consider the reasons for doing nice things. When a Christian does something nice or kind to another , he/she does so because they think that that will keep them on the track to heaven. - MisterE
Of course there are non-Christians who have morals. Who am I to judge the morality of any individual, let alone a group of people, but apparently MisterE has been given the go ahead to do just that.
Now, I’m not upset at what he said, per se; I’m more frustrated by the fact that he most likely has no Christian associates, yet he finds it acceptable to make such horrifyably uncorroborated utterings.
The statements that he makes are not only sweeping, but they also consistently tend to miss the essence of what Christians truly believe — the motivating forces behind the thoughts and actions he so quickly stereotypes. This, in my opinion, is a reflection of a lack of contact with the Christian demographic.
Here’s the thing; I’m definitely more conservative than MisterE, but I don’t make rude comments about groups of individuals who believe differently than I do; I may disagree or voice frustrations, but I don’t demean — I don’t openly attack — especially when it comes to faith. Some of my best friends are atheists and ultra-liberals, but I don’t see the same open-mindedness when I read pieces by MisterE. I sense a New Yorker who doesn’t really like Christians, letting labels overtake the hearts of the individuals he encounters (and if this is wrong, MisterE, I apologize; I’m basing this on what I’ve read from you; we’ve gone this route before and you’ve denied it).
As far as his assertion about the Christian motivation for doing good goes, it couldn’t be further from the truth. Christians don’t do good because they think they’ll go to Heaven for it. Christians have a moral framework that they follow by faith; we allow God to transform us, as we’re all works in progress. I don’t get up in the morning and say, "I’m going to start a non-profit today because I want to go to Heaven."
I do good for the same reasons you do, MisterE. Who are you to say that anyone does anything for any reason without truly knowing the motivating forces that move hearts other than your own?
With that said, I also strive to be like Christ. He’s the role model for my life. And since I believe that He is the only individual who as never sinned, He’s the perfect mark to follow.
And I’ll briefly address this:
Thats why atheists are liberal, we just know that there is no logical reason to be a social conservative, because its mostly based on selfish acts of moral crusading to make one feel more comfortable with one’s self. -MisterE
Selfish acts? See, here’s the thing; MisterE brings up abortion as and claims that social conservatives infringe on the rights of others by standing against it. How would preventing abortion make me feel more comfortable with myself? Your ideologies are flawed; I’m against abortion for the same reasons you’re for it!
I believe that it infringes on the potential of the life that is being formed; I believe that we do not have the right to remove any life. And let’s explore why people have abortions, MisterE. In 99% of the cases, individuals have abortions as a result of selfishness — as a result of not wanting to take responsibility for pleasurable actions (unless there are other causes for pregnancy that were out of their control).
At the end of the day, MisterE’s post shows a one-sidedness that is reflective of an isolated New York City experience. Not only are most of the ideas grossly over/under-calculated, there is no evidence (empirically or socially) that indicates an adequate consultation with members of the groups that he forges such hasty accusations against.
"Enjoy." - MisterE